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hello. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. live in los angeles. 10:00 thursday night. >> live in atlanta. 1:00 a.m. here on the u.s. east coast. here we are. moving into the second hour of the u.s. government shut down. keep in mind this is the second time that this happened during the trump administration. live look at the senate floor.
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you get a sense of exactly what's happening now. the senate does have a budget plan. we understand. the vote has been held up by one senator. rand paul. paul objects to the increase in government spending and the federal deficit. otherwise this plan has bipartisan support. and we're expecting to see procedural votes here. that's what we plooef believe is happening now. that will be under way. let's go to capitol hill. our congressional correspondent following this story. phil, a lot happening here. so many pressing questioning aside from whether you'll get sleep tonight. any indication on whether senator paul will back down on this? or looking to hold firm. >> he held as firm as he could. this is the point he could push things. because the senate works of senate procedure if the senator from kentucky didn't agree to an earlier vote. this was going fo go until 1:00 a.m. here we are 1:00 a.m.
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the senate floor they are having the first procedural vote. this will end debate on the budget deal. about an hour and a half from now they'll hold the vote to pass this. when this day started there were two things that were known. the senate had the votes to fasz this and the senate was expecting to move this to the house sometime early afternoon. here we are 1:00 a.m. the government has been shut down for an hour. rand paul has major objections to the deal and the process. just wanted one amendment to get a vote. has objected throughout the entire process and because of that not only did we cross the threshold of the sdhount. right now there's not necessarily a clear path forward as this moves from the senate to the house. >> let's talk about that. if it gets@house the question about democrats. are the votes there? >> it's the elusive answer. we have been looking for throughout the day.
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the people who are actually behind closed doors in the room trying to whip votes and see where the votes are. here's the dynamic. house republicans because a group of the party is against the spending deal. they believe it increases spendsing far too much. on the non-defense side of things will be opposing the group. about 40 or 50. that means they'll need democratic votes and right now george, they don't know where the votes are. democrats made clear they are holding out for the time being. the big question now is when this gets to the house floor as is expected to around the 5:00 a.m. hour. will they come around? until they have the answer, right now most things are in the dark. >> phil, the other question. how does daca play into this. especially for those house democrats who wanted to see a commitment similar to what they saw in the senate. taking this issue up. >> it's everything. it's the reason why dwoent have firm answers right now.
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if you look at this budget deal this was a bipartisan deal. and while it was announced over in the senate by chuck schumer. and mitch mcconnell. this was negotiated in large part by democratic leader nancy pelosi. over in the house. along with paul ryan. in the chamber as well. the reason even though they were in the room and got a number of domestic priorities. more than $130 billion in defense spending. the reason they are opposed is the daca issue. and you noted the key issue. in the senate, senator majority leader will have a free and fair process. it will start next week. basically whoever gets the most votes whoever gets more than 60 that proposal will move forward. democrats want something similar. paul ryan wants to take this issue up. he's not going to move anything in the chamber unless it has the
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support of president trump. that's where the divide happens. democrats have no trust in the president related to this. two of the four pillar ins the proposal they are opposed to. that's why we're here now. trats are in the minority in the house and senate. particularly in the house. there's limited to no leverage at all to get anything they want. these moments must pass bills where democrats voted are needed to move things forward. those are the moments of leverage. democrats have been holding out for that more extensive commitment. the real question is given the fact that a number of democrats, dozens. want to vote for the deal are support i of the budget deal. will they be willing thoeld their votes off and force this issue? frankly make the shut down that could be a couple hours last a lot longer. the answer to that question, we'll wait ask see. >> phil, standby. i want to take a live look at
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the senate floor. to see exactly what's happening. i want to get your perspective on this. give us the play by play. we see activity there. it's a 1:05 on the u.s. east coast chlts what exactly are the senators doing. >> this is the first vote. this is what people have been waiting for for hours. i have been talking to senators and staff throughout the course of the day. there's extreme frustration that is got to this point. there were flights home sk scheduled. everybody knows how it will end in the senate. they have the votes to move it forward. it's a procedural vote. a sense of where everybody is. the big question is how big the vote is going to be. not whether or not it will pass. this will be the first indication of that. after this vote senator paul will get another hour or so on the floor. to plead his case. he will once again not get the amendment vote he wants and they
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will move to final passage. the interesting element is the timing. essentially the government shut down. because senator paul is not given his amendment vote. and they ran out of time. not because there's a specific policy issue that people are trying to force. not a large group of one party or another trying to make a major change to domestic or foreign policy. because they ran out of time. this is what happens when you release a 652 page budget deal. that incorporates major spending on the defense side. $90 billion in disaster relief. tax extenders and healthcare. into a single deal. release it an hour before the day you're supposed to vote. these problems happen. because of that, we're in a shut down. and senators are trying to get themselves out of it. >> sorting through the details live for us. great deal of uncertainty. we'll stay in touch. >> all right.
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los angeles joining us. also here with us, a professor of law. welcome to you all. john, to start with you. let's put up the live shot of what's happening on the senate floor. to keep viewers abreast in dc. we look at the procedural vote under way right now. delayed by senator ran paul. hearing those on capitol hill speak earlier in the day. there was a great amount of irritation. that ran paul did this. do you share that irritation? >> i do. senator paul is speaking for two reasons. he's finding his lane for 2024 to be the fiscal watchdog. the second he is using this has a fundraiser opportunity. >> you truly see that? >> i absolutely do. he knows that he's not going to get his amendment.
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there was no possible way. why else would he filibuster? he wants to drive the debate and discussion. he wants to drive his presidential ambition. that's frustrating for the senators. >> this is about fundraiser and getting his name out there. take a listen. >> the only way for the american public to belief that some believe it is be consistent. against debt. whether it's democratic or republican. and that's a real problem here. republicans have completely changed now. and they said a trillion dollar deficit was a terrible under president obama. it's fine it it's republican. that won't wash with people. truly worried about the debt and are consistent. it doesn't matter which party is doing it. if it's wrong it's wrong. >> he says it's about hypocrisy. on the part of the gop. that called out president obama
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when he added to the deficit. here they are advocating for the same thing. >> this is reflective of two things. he's a republican. republicans are in control of all the different power levers of government. and they look incompetent. the second time in three weeks the federal government is shutting down. he's absolutely right. republicans are totally disingenuous. a month ago they blew open the deficit. adding $1.5 trillion to debt. giving massive cuts to wall street corporations. after years of railing against president obama. i agree. they look extraordinarily hypocrite kal. >> it's a fair criticism. the deal is president trump and the leaders in both houses are coming to a bipartisan solution. something everyone in the country has been begging for. and now they're getting slammed for reaching across the aisle kp making a deal.
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>> really when it comes down to it. this is the second shut down in three weeks. this is happening during the trump administration. president trump voted in with the man tra of we're going to do things different with me in the white house. >> we have done so many things differently. i'm not with you on that one. i see so many uniquenesses and differences. i will say the polarization we see in the elected officials is still very much the same. and will maybe shock i agree with you. with respect to what senator paul is doing. we have continued we are not different. we have senators grand standing throwing tantrums and creating a government shut down. because they're getting a ton of free media for the next election cycle. so yes, things are different. things are still very much the same with respect to the inability to do what i think we expect most americans to do in their job. which is come to some sort of
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compromise to keep the lights on. i think this will be a short shut down. as much as the house democrats do want to exercise their leverage for daca. they also want to not be seen as the minority party that really put their foot down and was the one who created the shut down. >> being obstructionist is more being a democrat as the generic ballot continues to tighten. people in vulnerable seats don't want to have a shut down for a second time on their heads. >> you're expressing opttism this will be short lived. let's play sound from the vice president. who is in south korea. he shares your sentiment. let's hear from the vice president. >> we remain hopeful as the process goes forward. that this will be only a temporary government shut down. i know this schedule in the senate runs passed midnight. and that they're likely will be
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a short term shut down. our hope is the bipartisan agreement reached in the senate will be passed out and sent to the house. >> dave, vice president pence expressing optimism there. but the votes in the house are not guaranteed. >> for sure. let's remember last shut down actually plit coput out a poll. 41% of americans blame republicans for the shut down. 36% blame democrats. democrats did have the upper hand according to to public opinion. from that poll. i think it's smart for nancy pelosi to exploit this issue. when it comes to daca. the american people are on their side. 90% of americans and poll after poll want a daca fix. paul ryan hasn't committed today it. in a way mitch mcconnell even has. it's in democrats best interest to leverage this and get something out of it. i think there will be bipartisan support. to push this thing through.
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>> nancy pelosi wants this to pass. we all know. she her staff had a hand in drafting this. >> precisely. she's not red doi vote for it just yet. she's trying to leverage this opportunity. the speaker doesn't have the votes. because republicans aren't fully supporting it. you have the house freedom caucus. that have come out opposing this. they don't want to add to the deficit. >> is this everything americans hate about politics? >> it's absolutely the case. my own party can't agree with themselves and you have obstructionist on the left. using it for fund raising. it's sickening. but we'll get through this. republicans and president trump have committed to coming up with a daca and dreamers solution. the devil is in the details. it's not as if they don't want to have the conversation. >> paul ryan said they'll have a debate. and it has to be something the president will agree to. which narrows the field of
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conversation. >> he has the veto. president trump has gone a distance in terms of offering far more than simply daca recipients to stay here. he wants border enforcement and end chain migration. other than that. >> he wants to structurally change. and double it almost to 2 million illegals that have a path way to citizen ship. >> trying to tie your fortunes to what president trump wants is a risky business. he says he's against daca. these are important people. and he's in favor of daca. this is the worst of politics because i think what we're seeing is the american people are very much in favor of let's get a deal on daca. and let's be honest the american people also basically blamed both parties about the same for the last government shut down. but it's our legislators who we see having a big disconnect with what we want. and not getting the deal on the
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table. it's disheartening for those reasons and more. you are really rolling the dice if we tie our fortunes to what president trump wants with respect to daca. >> we'll hit pause for a second. we'll stay across what's happening there on capitol hill in the hours ahead. stay with us. we'll take a quick break. top aid to president trump accused of domestic violence. how the white house is scrambling to contain the latest political scandal. that's next.
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learn more at your john deere dealer. breaking news this hour. 1:19 on the u.s. east coast. you're looking at a live image of the u.s. senate floor. again what we're see right now there on the floor is the procedural vote. this vote in advance of the budget deal. keep in mind we are in to the second hour of the u.s. government shut down. the government officially shut down until this process can play through. this is the second time this happened during the trump administration. quite frankly right now all eyes on the u.s. senator ran paul. what will he do. will he agree with this or continue to hold firm. we will have to wait and see. again this live image of the u.s. senate floor. where the procedural vote is under way. >> all right. thank you for that. another big political headline. the fact the white house is
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scrambling to explain why it kept staff secretary rob porter on the job after allegations of domestic violence. he resigned wednesday and denying the charges. the white house counsel and the chief of staff were aware of the claims after the fbi interviewed porter last fall. his first ex-wife released a picture of herself with black eye. she says porter punched her. the fbi spoke with both of his ex-wives part of the security clearance. which was never approved. john kelly sent an e-mail thursday saying quote while we're processing the shocking and troubling allegations, i want you to know that we all take matters of domestic violence seriously. domestic violence is abhorrent and has no place in society. >> it's fair to say we could have done better over the last few days in dealing with this situation. this was a rob porter that i and many others have dealt with.
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sarah dealt with. that other officials including the chief of staff dealt with. and the emerging reports were not reflective of the individual who we had come to know. >> well, porters second ex-wife says he asked her to down play allegation of domestic abuse. >> it does sound like he was asking you to deny what you had -- >> he was asking me to down play it. and asking me to emphasize more of the relationship that he and i have now. opposed to what i experienced in his marriage. >> have you talked to anymore the last couple days? >> i haven't. >> the rob porter is in relationship with the white house press secretary hope hicks. do you think he's changed? >> i don't think he's changed. >> does that worry you? >> it worries me for a lot of reasons. it definitely worries me because
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if i'm being frank with you, if he hasn't already been abusive with hope, he will. in particularly now he's under stress. and scrutiny. that's when the behavior comes out. if he hasn't already, he will. >> he can't he has not gotten help he can't stop at this point? >> i don't think he has done the self-reflective work to acknowledge this issue. i don't think he has really taken the time to deconstruct why it is that he behaves this way. until he's able to do that, i don't know he has control over it. >> you're worried about hope hicks? >> i am worried. >> back with our panel. jessica, to start with you. what does it say about this white house? according to to our reporting cnn that the white house counsel and the chief of staff were made
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aware of this after the fbi interviewed rob porter last fall and did nothing until it emerged. >> the question is the answer. they did were aware. at least with respect to the broad brush allegations there were domestic violence allegations. and that's why the security clearance never became permanent. that's why he had temporary security clearance. nothing was done. sadly this is entirely consistent with the trump administration. again candidate trump was on tv bragging about sexual assault. this is a group of people who decided to work for that man. being the president. and so i think general kelly's comments that he was shocked and we're absorbing this and there's no place for domestic violence in the society. i would sadly say all actions to the contrary. there's it really strains common sense to think they were unaware and let's remember that rob porter stock was rising in the trump white house. he was profiled one of the most
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important behind the scenes members of the administration. he had hand in running the state of the union. in large part the gate keeper in terms of flow of information to the president. we can put out as many statements as we want. let's look at the actions. the actions are extremely troubling. >> to pick up with what she said. again, you hear the chief of staff say it's abhorrent. we're totally opposed to it. but the actions don't marry up with the words. and his his stock was rising. and many people say this points to a problem with the culture in the white house. >> i certainly think the white house screwed up and how they handled this and should be consequences to whoever knew about it. and didn't deal with it. >> if it is proven the chief of staff knew about it, should he go? >> i'm not privy to the facts. there needs to be consequences. whether he's removed or not it's
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not safe to say. we'll learn more as time goes on. we can't forget -- >> that's ducking the issue. if he knew and it comes out. >> here's the challenge. the challenge is even rob porters ex-wife said this is he's a very smart man. a persuasive man. he convinced her to stay with him for some period of time. i would bet you rob porter as he sounds like he was excellent at his job. was pushing aside the early allegations and dismissing them and convinced those around him that what they're hearing from an ex-wife is simply disgruntle ex-wife. i'm concerned that what he did is effectively muddy the waters until it bubbled up. and kicked him out. >> is bubbling up herself. >> i'm a with you he was persuasive. he's a smart guy. he's good at his job.
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and he engaged in domestic violence. the fbi thought there was a there there. he can say i didn't do that as much as he wants. the chief of staff and previous chief of staff were aware the fbi thought there was enough allegations that we can't go forward with the security clearance. the very least there was very strong tip off that this was a credible issue. >> can i say on a human level, that interview was extraordinarily hard to watch. knowing this person was a high level official in the white house. one of the most powerful people in the country. and the white house created a culture of sanctioning this kind of behavior. i have no doubt john kellily knew about this. and brushed it to the side thinking it wasn't going to come out. and he should be fired. immediately. it's disgusting. >> it is well known. hope hicks i don't believe would get into a relationship with somebody she believed was a domestic violence perpetrator sfwl my point is.
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if john kelly knew it. it needs to be consequences. it doesn't sound like it was written on the bathroom stall. >> let's take you what you're saying and take it down a logical road. the fbi interviewed these ex-wives. put a block on him getting a permanent security clearance. that was obviously known by people. why wasn't there an internal investigation? this notion he had to have a sign. why wasn't there an investigation. >> there should have been. the part of the challenge in how he muddied the water. rob porter worked for many high level elected officials. >> what does that have to do with anything? >> he was a known commodity. he's trying to dismiss the allegations, he could have persuaded people in the administration that it was noise. >> you know what that says, women have to do so much for their voices to be heard. women have to do so much to be believed. >> i think it was bold of this
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woman to gone on anderson cooper. there should be consequences. there's no way john kelly if it were cut and dry would let this go. >> i don't know. this is the guy yesterday who said daca recipients were lazy. this has been a bad week for john kelly. and this is a president let's not forget who said he grabbed women by the genital. and admitted it. this is long been an issue that the trump white house is sanctioned. >> we must leave it there. always appreciate it. thank you for the great conversation. we'll take a quick break. next, the u.s. government shut down again. lawmakers work on passing a budget bill. we're live on capitol hill. just ahead.
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welcome back to our viewers in the united states. and around the world. live in los angeles. >> i'm george live in atlanta. following the breaking news this hour. out of washington d.c. the u.s. government shut down for the second time in three
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weeks. a live look at the senate floor. they passed a vote to advance the bipartisan budget bill. next hour the final vote will happen. republican ran paul had been holding up the process. he keep in mind he objects to the large spending increase and their impact on the federal deficit. the senator is expected to approve the bill. we understand the final vote is happening now. let's go live to cnn phil matingly. following this. phil, we understand the vote is happening now. tell us more. >> that's actually a surprise. we expected senator paul he was allotted another hour to speak. he's been the reason this process has lasted this long. the fact the government shutdown was because he objected to an earlier vote. as you noted trying to get some kind of vote on his amendment to essentially unravel the bipartisan spending bill. it nbz increases spendsing far too much. he has chosen not to take the
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hour. what you're see right now is the final senate vote on passage of this $300 billion budget deal. in total cost about $500 billion when you add the 90 plus billion of disaster relief. and health care spending. it is a very large package. it deals with an enormous number of issues. it came together very quickly. and than as we noted throughout the day ran into problems. the senate the problem was one senator. the biggest question is what's happening next. we know how the vote will end up. you saw the procedural vote. a very big vote in favor of the bill. 73 yes votes in total. that's probably going to be repeated in this final vote. it will move over to the house. the big question has been where are house democrats going to come don. as it stands given republican speaker needs democratic votes, he doesn't know if he has them
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yet. open question. >> give us context there. what we're seeing the vote is essentially happening. and if as it moves onto the house, what are you hearing about what democrats were told from nancy pelosi about basically what to say on their decision. >> keep your cards close to your vest. that was the specific message the democratic leader gave her caucus this morning. in a closed door meeting. there's the reality here that democrats are a number of democrats like this deal. a lot. look at the senate vote. it's a bipartisan vote in major way. if you look at the deal itself, particularly on the non-defense spending more than $130 billion to hit key democratic priorities like opioid funding. veterans affairs. they have been fighting for years to remove the caps in place on that spending. but, what leader pelosi made clear. they need and want leverage to try and get a very specific
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structure for the immigration debate to come. obviously the daca issue has been hanging out for months. deadlines are coming up. there's very limited trust right now. not just with house republicans but with the president of the united states. in term of where democrats are. why they have been keeping where they are close to their vest. they want a firm commitment from paul ryan that he will mimic what mitch mcconnell did in the senate. allow for any bill that can come up to come up. and whoever gets the most votes ends up winning. a queen of the hill scenario. speaker ryan made clear tooes willing to bring daca to the floor. he wants to address the issue. he won't move something until he knows trump supports it. you want to talk the votes. the message the leader gave this morning, throughout the day they have been kind of trying to walk a thin line here. of acknowledging a lot of the members want to vote for this. trying to impress upon them that leverage is still needed.
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i will stay behind the scenes democrats in the house haven't been whipping members to vote against it. not actively. they have told them the leaders will vote against it. the number two will vote against it. number three will vote against it. they haven't been threatening or coax the members in to voting no. all of that leads to a simple reality. speaker paul ryan knows there are democrats who want to vote for this. he doesn't have a firm count of how many. given the fact that conservatives on his side of the aisle maybe 30, 40, 50 will be opposed to this. he'll need democratic votes. he needs to know where they are when it gets to the floor. until he has the answer, at least over the next couple hours. nobody has clear idea of how will this end. >> phil, standby. i want to vet for the viewers. we're looking here at a live image of the u.s. senate floor. again we understand the government has been shut down. the shut down started after
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midnight eastern time. we are here in to the second hour. of this government shutdown. this was the vote was held up by rand paul. now we understand this vote is under way. let's bring back in cnn phil matingly. who is there. following this. phil, tell us a bit more about the nature of the particular bill. again it is bipartisan. there are things that democrats and republicans like about this bill. >> yeah. an idea that has been addressed too few times over the course of the last couple years. maybe the last decade. look, talk about the details. let's look at the bigger picture. the idea of self-imposed crisis on the spending side of things. there was a shut down 18 days ago. it feels like we have been going through this year after year. writing appropriation bills the general basic functions of the government has been dilt. never seems to get done.
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we're in a last minute situation of. on top of that you have the debt ceiling. an issue that led to a series of market crisis. and major problems. and flare ups over the course of the last couple years. that will be suspended until march 2019. the idea of almost clearing the deck of major fiscal issues and major potential crisis. over the course of the essentially at least a year maybe a two year period. that's the big picture. why this is so attractive to republicans it's the defense spending. $160 billion over two years of increase in defense spending. this is something that since the sequester the caps on budgets how much can be spent and also the imposed cuts that were supposed to take effect because of the sequester in 2013, that will be done away with completely. this will be a major plus up in defense funding something president trump defense secretary has been calling for. pretty much since he got into the job. also key senators like mccain
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and lindsey graham have been saying the same thing. the military has been depleted. those will be addressed. that's the carrot for republicans. democrats like this deal. and you have seen a big democratic vote. it's the non-defense domestic spending. $130 billion into the barrel of the spending side of things. you add healthcare provisions. extending the children health insurance from six years to ten years. a significant amount of mown for opioid rehab. something that's an epidemic. the take away there's a lot for both parties to like in the deal. there's plenty that both feel was left out. you have people like senator rand paul made it clear the spending is too high. and on the left you have people who believe there has to be a daca resolution before they agree to give up the leverage.
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this is where they are now. the agreement came together quickly. people were surprised they got to this point. 650 pages in total. it was released at 11:15 p.m. on wednesday night. and now we're here. it's going to pass the senate. the big question is what happens in the house. >> when it gets@house the big question. what happens with democratic support. will they have the votes to move it forward? cnn congressional correspondent. who never sleeps. certainly on top of this story. thanks. standby of course for us. we'll touch base with you. >> joining us now. republican consultant and also with us jessica, professor of law and govern. to you first. despite pauls objections he gave up his extra hour of the debate if you will. now they are voting on passage
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of this budget bill. it cannot be under estimated what a big moment this is. it's expected to pass in the senate. the fact that potentially they're taking off the table endless more shut downs in the future. by getting this done. >> it is a big deal. it's a two year deal. that's very significant. it's deal that came together despite rand pauls complaining. in a bipartisan fashion. that's remarkable. given where the politics are today. with democrats refusing to give president trump an inch. it's a testament to both parties. and the next battle is going to be daca and what happens with those dreamers. >> dave to you. taking the moment playing out on the senate floor. this vote going on right now. this happened very quickly. people still wondering about the democrats motivation. in signing up for this.
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bear in mind weeks ago they were adamant nothing would get done without a daca deal. >> i'm not a fan with democrats caving last so early. last shut down we looked spineless. that being said, this is a win, win. domestic spending will skyrocket on health care and infrastructure. disaster relief. a lot of things democrats can be happy with. and frankly defense spending we have had a lot of issues with the defense department. we need to reup spending on that front. democrats have the good justification to support this. and frankly i think voters are sick of the gridlock and nothing getting done in washington. it's a win, win. the question is what happens in the house. there's a large number of republicans in the house freedom caucus who come out and oppose this bill. 30 to 40 votes. is paul ryan going to get any democrats to come on board with
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the existing bill. or nancy pelosi help her staff write this bill. she hasn't come out saying i'll vote for it. is there some sort of deal she's able to make to get paul ryan to make a commitment on daca in order to get democrats to vote for this. >> we make the point their voting in the senate right now. it still has to get to the house. that's far from guaranteed. the rate this is going. what are the political risks here for both sides? there are fiscal conservatives in the house that are very much opposed to seeing the deficit go up to 1 trillion. according to to some estimates from 2019. there are those who look at the democrats and say they would get a deal on daca and they are caving. what are the political risks for both sides? >> that's the risk. this is a bipartisan bill in a lot of ways. it's bipartisan in trumps world.
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it's bipartisan with democrats understanding they're in the minority. they are dealing with a very unpredictable president and there is a lot of big spending here. for programs they care about. i would say who's the loser in this? in a lot of ways it's people who care about economists. looking at how much we're spending. how much we're in debt and who are saying we're facing a looming wall ahead. to your point about the political ramifications i think that for democrats you don't want to look like the child in the room who created another government shutdown. because there is so much to like for many democrats. and you don'tment to look like you can't deal and you are just the obstructionist party. on the other hand i do think there are a number of big percentage of the base who will think you told many e you cared about daca. i care about tak daca. now you're not putting your
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money with your mouth is. they hold a very honest belief that this is too much spending. and our deficits are getting way too big. for them similarly to democrats, i think they have to look like they're holding their ground. >> this will be for the democrats and this is why you'll see it pass in a bipartisan fashion. this will be a win for democrats. because they're going to have the fight. it will be public next week over daca. they can stomp their feet and filibuster. they can do everything. and still look to the base that we did everything we could to hold strong. >> without the leverage of we could hold up the government shutdown. >> go ahead. >> that's true. they don't want to be responsible for a government shutdown. >> exactly. >> casting on eye towards the midterms. >> that's what this is all about. make no mistake about it. >> to the point. will the gop face that issue come november when it tries to say where the party of fiscal
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responsibility? >> from a democratic perspective we're going to capitalize on that. i'm running congressional races in california right now. it's a state that hilary won. seven house races in. seats are held by republicans. we're capitalizing on the fact that republicans blew open the deficit, added $1.5 trillion to the deficit. giving big tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires. and they actually raised taxes on hard working california families. at the end of the day this is going to make republicans up and down the state very vulnerable. >> we're running in some of the same races. here's what's remarkable about the fiscal issue could hurt. we're finding is those fiscal conservatives identify themselves as trump republicans first. so if the trump agenda is moving through they will with stand the attacks. >> the trump agenda leading to a
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thousand point drops in the stock market. one day after the next. >> all right, all right. i'm calling time. we'll continue the conversation. >> george? >> let's do bring in phil matingly. following the developments there on the senate floor. we understand the senate has enough votes to pass this budget deal. >> that's exactly right. they passed the threshold in terms of votes they need. the vote is open. it isn't final. the bottom line is the senate has enough votes to pass this $3 $300 billion budget deal. we have been talking about the next steps. this needs to move@to the house. that will take a couple hours. between 3 and 5:00 a.m. it will take time to go fard forward. a will the of unanswered questions here. to put in perspective. the scope of it. what it entails and takes off the table in the future.
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the senate over the course of four day was able to pull together in a bipartisan manner a deal that basically takes some of the biggest issues they have been dealing with. for months. for years. and not just pass it but pass it in major bipartisan just squeak line. they got a big vote here. i do think it's important for context to take a look at that vote and where democrats are on that vote and how that might reflect over in the house with those house democrats. i've been talking to a number of senate democrats and senate democratic aides over the course of the last couple of hours and their thought process was, one, they want house democrats to get on board and get this across the finish line. two, if democrats had a big vote in the senate and showed a lot of support in the senate, that would help those democrats in the house who said they wanted to vote for this but haven't quite publicly acknowledged that yet. or a little bit concerned about the daca issue that this will help them get things across the
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finish line. almost kind of turbo boost the process up to this point has been very slow and methodical or somewhat in the dark throughout the course of the day. so i think it will be interesting to pay attention to that. house democrats have been gone for the better part of the last couple of hours. actually most house staff has been as well. they're going to start filing in pretty soon as they prepare to start taking this up. that's when we'll start making our checks. start seeing where everybody is. obviously that's when republicans are going to try to see where house democrats are as well, george. >> it is always so interesting. phil mattingly, thank you so much. busy time on capitol hill. "cnn newsroom" will be right back after the break. i'm walki♪ ♪ wow! ♪ i'm walking on sunshine ♪ wow! ♪ applebee's handcrafted burgers. any burger just $7.99. now that's eatin good in the neighborhood.
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want to update you on the breaking news that we're following. the u.s. government is shut down, but the senate has passed this budget bill. again, that's the headline here at 1:5 a.m. on the u.s. east coast, the senate has passed this budget bill. we see mitch mcconnell there giving word there on the senate floor. again, this debate has been held up for some time by senator rand paul. again, what we're finding now, this bill has passed the senate. the next step will be to go on to the house.
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let's now bring in cnn's phil mattingly following everything there live. phil, what's the latest? >> reporter: yeah, the senate is wrapping up. something we thought was going to happen hours ago, actually yesterday at this point. by a vote, george, of 71-28. the $300 billion budget deal, a bipartisan agreement, is now passed at least one chamber. as you noted, it has to go over to the house. it's going to take a couple of hours to get that process through. but the u.s. senate on a bipartisan basis passing an enormously consequential budget deal. one that would end the shutdown should the house follow suit, obviously a shutdown that's been going on for nearly two hours. perhaps more importantly in the longer term, take a series of potential self-imposed crises off the table as it comes to fiscal and spending issues and perhaps even more importantly, it would tee up that immigration debate that democrats have been want dog desperately over the course of the last couple of months related to daca.
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again, the big unanswered question, what's going to happen in the house, specifically where are house democrats going to end up on this. take a look at this vote. 71 votes in favor of a bill and package this large, that bodes well. as of now, still wait and see, george. >> the senate passes the budget bill. phil mattingly, thank you so much. that's all the time we have this hour. i'm george howell live in atlanta. >> i'm isha sesay. the news continues right after this. why wait months for your next vacation when you can squeeze one in between friday and monday at hilton? there's a vacation at the end of every week.
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