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andrea's right, so the new chanter of life since world famous quire, the tom manor court. o mom, it's a chance to lead a classical music tradition into a new era. and for the swiss choir director, it's a lifelong dream. come true. 6 6 next on d w, this is grades only the t couple available over and over mentioned home the for example um hold last resume and that we can remember. would you like me about missing the valet that the last dragons in this world had called to home for 2 years? dw books on gotten ah
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ah uh huh. oh shipping by now. this is johann sebastian, bach successor. not the 1st. of course. he is the 18th to follow the great, perhaps the greatest church musician in german history, 46 year old andreas clyde is a switzer, which in and of itself, is something new for the saint. thomas choristers in the eastern german city of like see, in fact, it's a 1st in the 800 he, history of the boys choir, one of the oldest in europe because it's vicky. so this is truly a lifelong dream of mine. i've wanted to do this since i was a boy in a market for the choir. it mocks, the beginning of a new iraq. oh, ah. mid day it saint
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thomas looks much like any other school in germany. the capitalists, mathematical formulas, a temporarily forgotten. he, in the course, his boarding establishment, as the boys had to lunch ah, at this elite school music takes precedence and other subjects, the admission criteria a tough, only the most talented kids get in each day before lunch time and a senior glorious corral. 0, one of the old boys, a prefect has the privilege of leading it. oh, ah!
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another tradition. students eat in the same room. the younger boys, my 12 year old maximilian, together with the old attains like 17 year old natania. the choir monster is being said, flights it was a boy chorus to himself in switzerland. although he doesn't live in the boarding establishment. he enjoys dining. he with his cheatam's monument of us helper. my mother was a religious educator and we always went to church on sundays to tom called there was a boys choir that sang once a month. and i told my mom i'd like to join, look at it after that there was no stopping me. you could say i was thrown in at the deep end, they simply told me you're with the 2nd sopranos ish, here's heiner, should says, sing to the lord, a new song. and then i just had to start singing yes,
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a quote i vividly remember the 1st choir rehearsals at the age of 10. i felt completely out of my depth in ours. but i adapted quickly and i advanced to become a soloist. then i was allowed to sing a few big parts and that inspired me to go down this career path. no than victory. korea has brought rights to light, seek to leave. one of the world's great cries for the young chorused as the swiss conductor signals a new era. it's been almost 300 years since i was cancel here. but rights is immediate. predecessor also left his mark natania tells us that the choristers were weary of rights as a rival at 1st. this misconduct, i didn't have groups in light siege, and he isn't a st. thomas alumnus. like many of his predecessors there makes a lot nationally car. the change was quite radical because mr. wright's a comes from so far away. i think there are 2 very different philosophies. i,
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mr. eliza said, very fast pace. at rehearsals, he always tries to be one or 2 steps ahead, which means everyone is forced to follow suit quickly and cipher to false design them it and other ingots phones and ch name it says he does it work clamped, and yar? yes, he was chaotic at 1st because we had to get used to it, but it's slowly coming along. now this choir practice. yes, it's time over our scan. the swiss conductor is a stickler. the punctuality i and the group rehearsal involving all the choristers, is an important daily event. the owens in vicky's to now close your eyes tightly, finger, and move the tips of your fingers. that supervision we often at the same time, move your jaw with your eyes closed. keep your hands at your sides and move the
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tips of your toes on the tips bitten. so andreas, i say it's not enough for the boys to simply hit the right notes. it's about expression had the music and lyrics come across to the audience. mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mo, mom, mom, mom, mom, oh, oh ha ah, ah, ah, ah, come to did soon the listeners down in the nave half to say, oh lord, that's beautiful in and then ah, may sneak into, i am sorry i'd ceased i take our day so much. that's how it has to be. okay. for
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that, we'll wake them up. set off season. steven at oh, [000:00:00;00] ah, mondays rights is a fan of historical informed performance. he's staying faithful to the man and star in which music was in which he composed. that means hardly any thought brought using old instruments and sticking to the school. thus, benya einstein's, we apply this and how we stress the syllables, for example. so much i'll demonstrate. ah her not ah, rather ah,
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burn to spend me on it. that's what we do now with you. it's exciting and the boys are open to it. he symbolically the hem taxes. another example in orange, tim version, for instance, shuts says in all the scores from it's donita, which means now and for evermore. but in all modern additions choirs around the world sing yet stoned. m a dog. and why is that? we thing it's on the manda because that's how it is in the original. in the christmas oratorio, we see the word now was said as eat so not yet. so i insist on sticking to the original. oh, the manual. the scuffle is the client general. any chance to musicologist and chorus to himself, scope will pay close attention to any dictation. oh, quiet legacy news. lunch with one figure in the forefront. johann sebastian. bah, oh these are the 2 am cannot is,
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this is knowing. this is the choir that johann sebastian bach. once land night and that it is always played a vital and at times leading role in the development of protestant church music. that tradition is of enormous value. and it's a large part of why the choir itself is so valuable, held as realtors. this course was altima secret, so oft law, all the music is so often made boring because it's always sung in the same boring wage was. so when you sing, i am weak. that means you are crawling on the floor. and when you sing, my soul is terrified, let go scare them all and then hit that full impact. awful. i make this old music exciting with other was inc martin. ah, ah, me fish compared to back until a slights his job isn't lazy. and his predecessor, in the 18th century, he isn't responsible for the boys, entire education, national ex
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n. o. oh, oh, most of the time i can give his undivided attention to the music. but every now and then he has to read the riot act. ah dent that had a piano. that part should be sung softly. donald, don't you see piano and all your scores don't suck malt? now listen, it is often so some of you appear to be poking your fellow choristers in the back with sharp pencils stuck is talking to me. can that be true? ha, ha ha. because i think we should talk about it that i thought make it make, i don't mother. i am also a member of this choir and it's been nuts oh the at the get off the tomar. what characterizes us almost all small. the most important thing in my eyes is community august oct,
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on the sophistic sand. the most important thing for me is respect for one another by ship states if you're picking some one with a pencil because that's not respect the business thing. and i don't want to see that they say even if it's been happening here for centuries, and i don't want to see it. okay. now to number 85 please from philosophy. oh feedback. so i, i hi, stephanie, come oh yeah. oh, nice of you either. if it wishes out is education is an essential part of the job you is on. that's a special component of this position in leipzig. i'm very important to the boys as a point of contact. and as a teacher, when it's in a sock, i wouldn't say i'm the center of things, but i'm definitely one of the people, the boys look up to on yet a cook dish, or sometimes the 9 year olds look at me in awe. although that changes, of course it does keep that then there's puberty where the boys start navigating their way to maturity and i support them in that and making i'm always there when
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they need me. and they know that all that vision and that respect is important because it's what they give back to me, given them. and if that human aspect and the respect is there, then you can make great music together. come on. oh, i think that's very important. the civic maximilian has a problem. he wants mr. wright's it to release him from the 2nd half of rehearsal. he has homework soccer and his voice isn't in great shape. plus this a part he plan. oh, rounder contacted on who's with us or yes, we have the concerts to was i'd say you want to go shopping? yes, yes. okay. then go shopping until they leave high school. the seniors attend st. thomas, the oldest public school in germany. lessons homework and projects have to fit into the boys choir schedule. 1000000 manages this well.
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and he takes no issue with the new choir master and his fresh ideas. oh yeah. on he's very open and relates to us. well, i yeah, we'll contact aunts of course when you get a new choir master, you immediately make comparisons with the old one on mr. hides it is a can't or like all the others and all, all he has his own ideas and he does his job and i don't expect anything else from him. a lot and job o shelton and was only one maximilian priority right now is his geography, home leg. although maximilian seems church music week after week. he tells us he isn't religious. oh, my uncle was a pastor at saint thomas church, but i'm not too involved in the christian faith myself and i'm not baptized or anything. on
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a hit ally home health wasn't of number got their own parents is i was ross fione admission criteria that are a boy's commitment to music uncle from and his talent does talent to young's mission. odyssey is not whether he comes from a christian household poet common, or is christian and religious himself that will not let her sit on don anton, can i play? maximilian is a great goal scorer. he's also a fan of se fryeburg. the club in his home town, his family moved to leipzig said that maximilian could join the saint thomas choir . yeah. only boys are admitted. is that still keeping with the times? oh, absolutely. i can. yes, absolutely. and it and it, because a boys group functions completely differently from a mixed group. mr. cooper. i'm not saying this in a positive or negative way. this is but it's our experience that
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a group of boys works very differently when girls join them was holton. i saw a christmas singing and solo torn together with the girls choir, which is a really good choir, says almond. in fact, our daughter sings with them and i thought, i think of them it on been earth. if it, when the girls were there, the boys were like roosters and we saw them posturing on was on business when the groups are separated on everything as much calmer open katherine since this villa rica for loft. i one last shot on goal and then it's time to go friday afternoons. a hectic in the boarding establishment. the boys that used to sing in the church in just a few hours for all $100.00 of them. this means a visit to sabina fog law. the seamstress who takes care of the scene, his wardrobe, the older boys wear, suits, and ties,
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and the younger boys before their voices break, where a sailor suit a so called keel blass. oh, i see that he can take it. i've lengthened it for you. thanks. have fun. does she expect a new choir master to change things up and introduce more modern costumes? kennedy enforcing. i can't imagine that it more than his young i was actually updating. would certainly be a possibility, but the keel blouse is the signature look of the st. thomas choir. so it would prompt a huge debates as you and in some of the suits aren't ready. that's because today is one of the 1st performances in a long while. since you can't find it, no, not here. someone took it, no idea. you were on my list. ha! the coven!
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19 pandemic, greatly disrupted to quash actual. ne maximilian gets lucky and finds his killed glass straight away. the concerts are important to him, especially when it comes to performing works by his favorite composer, by water rehearsal. what's important to me about bah, is the music and the tremendous music and the beauty of it. and oh, it's outstanding recalls. actually it's incomparable over it's very important to me . owns well, well, it's also important that the choir looks good to the sailor suits require more attention than the boys every day where ah, the parents of the younger boys isn't left to chance. the adults don't interfere either. instead, the boys have to present themselves to the older members in this room. this is
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another of the centuries old rituals. ah, the checklist includes clean fingernails, doc, socks, impeccable blouse. oh, top button. ah. the domestic loose is a kind of prefect. he has an exacting eye. that doesn't let any irregularity slide . his assistance, keep him meticulous. record of the wrong coal. then your 1st time. right? i know my 2nd shot. did it. oh, go. well, getting ready? yes. did your mentor help you? i did it myself. that's great. ah. once older boys pass inspection, they head off to saint thomas church,
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but not by bass. they cover the one kilometer root on foot. this nautical parade several times a week is part of leipzig cityscape. ah is surely there is on us. why is it something very special and naturally causes a bit of a stir? i also think that's probably the whole purpose of these close owns. it's a good feeling i must say 0, i'm good is calculations on it. does anyone ever approach you? yes, often why? so what do they say? i long i to last they say ah, you're from the saint thomas choir. it's great to see you or something. hello,
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everyone is very nice. i live on senate. does that make you proud? yes, a bit, but it's part of our life, so to speak, a homeless liaison, so to long the boys. destination is one of leipzig top landmarks saint thomas church in its present form. it dates from the end, the 15th century, but it was significantly remodeled in the 19th century. oh, it became famous internationally as the place where johann sebastian banquet, the man who shaped jim and church music like no other musician, to his death in 1750 o box. legacy and symptoms crossed his jewel tourists to leipzig,
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as is evident from the gift shop. next to the church. oh . ready ready for the boys, what's most important is the special of his place. oh, that is on his lot. when i started singing here, it was a very different experience than when i just listened. and i will talk to sing along with something very special sandals. it's a space that is full of music and is supposed to be full of music there follows ecos owns and it's wonderful to hear music here and it has a beautiful atmosphere. why was he getting this notion, alvarado? oh, oh oh oh oh,
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traditionally have to be re examined. perhaps the choir could also perform in secular setting, like a concert hall that if i like to do box music in church, but i'd also like to perform box mass and be minor. i'd live 6 concert hall, the give and houghton to bring it to people who might not otherwise come to saint thomas. i think one should be open to that response into elkins on, oh, sent to shoot is always been pulled up. the silence of the st. thomas boys choir and it always will be here they are a permanent fixture in church services. was he else at once? really great in leipzig is that we sometimes divide up the gospel so that part of it is read is then part is sung and then the last part is read again. that's not possible in the catholic church which i was brought up on this, but those are the possibilities i have here. i've dreamed of them all my life,
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even though the clergy also benefits from these possibilities for the recitals on friday evening and sunday services. pastor martin 100 mark can count on the choir week after week. oh, oh, yes and he can hear the classes. we follow the classical lead to g here because it's a centuries all tradition of the grounds. people, hockey, and as a pastor my heart swells. when i sing the liturgical chance here with the children, it's you and they're involved in the brass. anger wouldn't offend, although there's a clear religious context to the choir. it doesn't have any concerns about attracting new talent. it remains open.
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ah, ah love fondness vinegar. i think there are fewer people now in the choir who are actually christian and who believe in god, who limits about i don't think that's a problem of all who went firstly the theological texts often convey values beyond the christian context. and secondly, regardless of the lyrics, when you can always experienced the music as it is independent from the text yard yard, everyone's able to understand that the music is special, that regardless of whether they believe in the words or not, i love that. but i have also seen it evolve in the other direction on some chorus, does experience it in a new way and get baptized precisely because they sing and st. thomas. so it can also be an impetus else non follow me at my, the thickness yet there was this one time that really stuck with me. there was
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a st. thomas student who was in the 12th grade, or he was not a member of the church, but had been a chorister since the age of 4 or 5. and then joined st. thomas war. and i asked him, how can you sing the mass and be minus the passions if you yourself don't believe and i just can't understand it does. can i grow up differently? and i was brought up from childhood in the parsonage and for hope of go back to work. this boy said to me, oh mister 100, mark mark with you know, god, he's wise. i know that when i sing, i'll console the people down there on that. and there are a lot of people sitting there who believe it, when i do it for them happen. and i do it with all my hand is f. net if it's yet and full. and i said to him, well, that's a kind of faith though you don't call it that different, but he couldn't or didn't want to take the stamp of being baptized or joining the charge. hoping to last, however, he understood exactly what constitutes christian faith. west coast isn't love of
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oh, making the faith to as many as possible and why is able to go into again. 6 6 it's another goal of the new crime master, until his right knows new growth. it's a great joy and a great honor to be able to work here in leipzig under these professional circumstances look to and i want to take this opportunity to say, this is something extraordinary. i was given his ah, ah. c c c ah ah,
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